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I<br>believe Mr Oliver Standingford had just left the company prior to my joining but I<br>knew Mr Geoffrey Mills with whom he co-wrote \u201cOffice Practice\u201d I certainly cannot<br>claim to have known them well (being considerably younger) but my office was in the<br>same corridor so saw them all frequently. To measure their success is<br>difficult: obviously, as things eventually panned out I suppose wrong decisions were<br>made but they were surely the \u201cbrains\u201d of the time. By way of comparison, \u201cmedical\u201d<br>knowledge extended to patients having leeches set upon them to draw out blood but as<br>time passed with newer developments this soon become consigned to history. Mobile<br>phones were the size of bricks, became very small but curiously are now larger (albeit<br>slim and lightweight) but have the capacity to offer many more functions. Life has<br>changed beyond all recognition over the past half century with so many new<br>inventions, and all new technology in the future will surely pale into insignificance<br>with yet more inventions. Fax machines and music cassettes for instance, (good<br>inventions that were relatively short-lived). LEO though was of great significance<br>and I feel very privileged to have been an employee at J Lyons during those early<br>years. Even the style of dress of those gentlemen would not suit modern times: grey<br>suits, short back and sides hair, most smoked. Most certainly Miss Margery Slack,<br>secretary to Mr Simmons did, and Mrs Maureen Henley, secretary to TRT. When<br>entering their offices you could barely see them through the smoke! I recall walking<br>through the bakery department once with trolleys of bread rolls open to the elements;<br>people walking past coughing. Swiss rolls, as I recall were all rolled by hand as no<br>machine had been put together that could roll them without cracking. Imagine what<br>Health and Safety would say about that nowadays. The internal telephone exchange<br>was fascinating, headed by Mr Calder. Each call had to be individually<br>connected. The two dozen or so telephonists sat at terminals with thick flex to insert<br>into the connecting plug. When lifting the receiver to make a call, the telephonists<br>were trained to ask by name \u201cWhich number, Mr Simmons\u201d but \u2018ordinary staff\u2019 were<br>greeted with \u2018number please\u2019 to which you replied \u2018extension 645\u2019. Daily office life<br>was very labour intensive with reports and minutes of meetings having to be typed<br>using carbon paper to produce extra copies. I was a very light typist, only being able<br>to produce about four readable reports so, if ten were required I would have to type<br>each set three times which was very time-consuming. How different my life would<br>have been with a modern computer\/keyboard, email facility and the holiday<br>entitlement of today. Ten days only, plus Bank Holidays and New Year\u2019s Day was a<br>working one at the time. Mr Samuel Salmon gave a New Year address over the<br>tannoy, \u201cHello and good morning, Cadby\u201d and thanking all for their contribution to<br>this great company. It was just that at the time and I am pleased that aspects will have<br>historical significance. I rather suspect those in LEO had their heads down busily<br>engaged in developing the new machinery and knew rather less of what happened on a<br>day to day basis, as described above. Mr John Andrews has a file of LEO memorabilia<br>that, being somewhat of a hoarder, I have kept from my early days at<br>JL. Unfortunately I could not download this<br>(http:\/\/leo.settle.dtdns.net\/LeoCode\/LeoIIIdemo2.zip) Please forward this on and feel<br>free to ask any further questions you feel I may be able to assist with. Best rgds<br>Valerie<br>Dear Frank,<br>Having heard your name for several years (I have attended quite a few reunions (sadly<br>seeing Mr Caminer in a wheelchair at one) it surprises me that our paths never seem to<br>have crossed. Mr Simmons, to me, was the epitome of the perfect gentleman and<br>always addressed me as Valerie (no others did so)*. Geoffrey Mills smoked a pipe, as<br>you may recall, and somewhat amazingly lived less than five minutes from where my<br>son and daughter in law now reside. His address sounded so romantic (Beechcroft was<br>the name of his house) and to me it sounded so far away (Claygate, Surrey). * my own<br>boss of course used my Christian name and, to my total amazement, announced one<br>day that as he used mine, then I should use his. 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